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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:15:00 -
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Yes, how dare CCP insist that you pay the fee if you want to gain the benefits of something in the game?
Money-grubbing bastards, they shouldn't close loopholes that let people gain months' worth of training for a fraction of the cost of the time required. It's totally unethical for them to expect to be paid for using their game.
Actually, I'm hoping this change cuts through the fields of disposable alts on secondary accounts like a scythe through summer wheat.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Maliartis I will be unsubscribing both of my accounts if this change goes live.
No you won't. Stop being so melodramatic.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tasko Pal Having read a number of posts, I have a few things to say. First, I favor this proposed change especially if it is in conjunction with a skill queue. A year ago, I lost two months of skill training time on a paid for account because I couldn't log in for that time. I don't think it's fair that paid for accounts can lose training time while others are gaming the system via ghost training without paying. Nobody cared about my whining then and I sure don't care about the whining now. Must admit that making this change right after the "power of two" advertising is pretty shifty though.
Second, having said that, I see 37+ pages of comments, of which all but a slim minority support ghost training. That's strong incentive to keep the status quo. Wish it'd be otherwise, but looks to me like ghost training is here to stay.
I don't think they'd make this change without numbers to back it up. My guess is that ghost training is used by a vocal minority, who will make a lot of noise but don't represent a significant enough portion of the subscriber base to represent that kind of incentive to status quo.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hun Jakuza Edited by: Hun Jakuza on 13/10/2008 21:27:00 Oh wait, the CCP will losing not just alts, but active players too. They will never come back, after a couple months of pause. Might be 10-20% alt will still in game, but 80% of alts will not pay his accounts. I think 6 subscribe (two monts activating need an alt) in one year better then, nothing. CCP guys not enough smart peoples.
I'm having a VERY hard time being unhappy about fewer alts.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker How is that unfair that CCP wants to charge players for using their product? As I have allready stated: it is certainly unfair against those of us who pay and play!
They do charge you for using their product. lol. Its not like you can play EVE when your account is inactive. Your character training != using product/service.
Apparently, CCP disagrees with you- hence this change.
I was always amazed they let people train an inactive account, to tell the truth.
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Jimer Lins
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:50:00 -
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I have a request, CCP:
Please post your subscription numbers as of today, the 15th, and one month after this change goes live so we can point and laugh at all the "I'm cancelling all my accounts!" people when it's shown that this will have no net effect on actual paying subscriptions.
If this gets rid of even a fourth of the hordes of alts that dominate the landscape of this game, it'll be a HUGE improvement.
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Jimer Lins
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Miriyaka
Originally by: Jimer Lins If this gets rid of even a fourth of the hordes of alts that dominate the landscape of this game, it'll be a HUGE improvement.
Gosh, yes, alts, so terrible. They're just ruining the game! By requiring more accounts and injecting more money into it! Yes!
Only with ghost training, they're not... they're just disposable nonentities that people use while their ghost account is still active for a skill change. Heaven forfend that people have to start using a real character to scout for gatecamps or do recon work.
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Jimer Lins
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Posted - 2008.10.13 22:05:00 -
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Hey, thanks for breaking the forum layout with that bloody ginormous image.

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